studs retiring and new suggestions

[Carole]

THIS POST IS FROM RHI

Houston, we have another problem!

15 Game studs have to retire after this year. Boooo!
Born 1991 or older, this is the last year they'll stand. When i created the game i knew this would happen. This way we have normal cycling of stallions. Some, as you can see stood longer than the 15 year limit.
Storm Cat * 1983
AP Indy * 1989
Belong to Me * 1989
Dixieland Band * 1980
Gulch * 1984
Pine Bluff * 1989
Rahy * 1985
Silver Deputy(Can) * 1985
Seeking The Gold * 1985
Devil His Due * 1989
Salt Lake * 1989
Dayjur * 1987
Cozzene * 1980
Cherokee Run * 1990
Holy Bull * 1991
Phone Trick * 1982



I've got a list of replacements. YAY!!!! Now, obviously the list is more than 15 long. I figure we'd eleminate some. I put the horse Ash likes on the list, AND his sire. There is also another Aus/NZ horse, and some canadian and other places.
Saint Liam - 2005 HOTY RT and Afleet Alex I"m sure ppl will want them.
The other American studs are all top 5 stallions for SW and money earners.
Giant's Causeway and Tiznow are 1 and 2
Rock of Gibralter is an Irish Stud, but he stands in Aussie
Redoute's Choice is a stud that Jason recomended , along with Octagonal.

okay so .....here is the list.... please, check them out... the first figure is the stud fee, the last figure is the LTE: Some of the fees i had to translate into American Dollars.
32 Rock of Gibralter(IRE) ( 1999 ) Bay Stallion Danehill x Offshore Broom (IRE) ( Be My Guest ) Stud Fee: $99,424 ( 13 ) 10 - 2 - LTE: 875,278 www.pedigreequery.com/rock+of+gibraltar2

33 Lonho (Aus) ( 1998 ) Brown Stallion Octagonal (NZ) x Shadea (NZ) ( Straight Strike ) Stud Fee: 49,605 ( 34 ) 26 - 2 - 2 LTE: 5,627,080 www.pedigreequery.com/lonhro

34 Octagonal (NZ) ( 1992 ) Brown Stallion Zabeel (NZ) x Eight Carat (GB) ( Pieces of Eight(IRE) ) Stud Fee: $24,802 ( 28 ) 14 - 7 - 1 LTE: 4,428,581 www.pedigreequery.com/octagonal

35 Redoute's Choice (AUS) ( 1996 ) Bay Stallion Danehill x Samantha's Choice (AUS) ( Canny Lad (Aus) ) Stud Fee: $165,668 ( 10 ) 5 - 1 - 2 LTE: 1,567,850 www.pedigreequery.com/redoutes+choice

36 Archers Bay(CAN) ( 1995 ) Brown Stallion Silver Deputy(CAN) x Adorned ( CAN) ( Val De L'orne(FR) ) Stud Fee: $7,500 ( 13 ) 4 - 3 - 2 LTE: $666,200 www.pedigreequery.com/archers+bay

37 Montjeu (IRE) ( 1996 ) Bay Stallion Sadlers Wells x Floripedes (FR) ( Top Ville (IRE) ) Stud Fee: $223,412 ( 16 ) 11 - 2 - LTE: 2,062,822 www.pedigreequery.com/montjeu

38 Whiskey Wisdom (CAN) ( 1993 ) Dark Bay Stallion Wild Again x Primarily ( Lord At War (ARG) ) Stud Fee: $5,000 ( 6 ) 5 - - LTE: $452,824 www.pedigreequery.com/whiskey+wisdom

39 Royal Applause (GB) ( 1993 ) Bay Stallion Waajib(IRE) x Flying Melody (IRE) ( Auction Ring ) Stud Fee: $26,813 ( 15 ) 9 - 1 - 1 LTE: $667,923 www.pedigreequery.com/royal+applause

40 Tiznow ( 1997 ) Bay Stallion Cee's Tizzy x Cee's Song ( Seattle Song ) Stud Fee: $40,000 ( 15 ) 8 - 4 - 2 LTE: 6,427,830 www.pedigreequery.com/tiznow

41 Giant's Causeway ( 1997 ) Chestnut Stallion Storm Cat x Mariah's Storm ( Rahy ) Stud Fee: $300,000 ( 13 ) 9 - 4 - LTE: 3,078,989 www.pedigreequery.com/giants+causeway

42 Dixie Union ( 1997 ) Dark Bay Stallion Dixieland Band x She's Tops ( Capote ) Stud Fee: $40,000 ( 12 ) 7 - 3 - LTE: 1,033,190 www.pedigreequery.com/dixie+union

43 More Than Ready ( 1997 ) Dark Brown Stallion Southern Halo x Woodmans Girl ( Woodman ) Stud Fee: $30,000 ( 17 ) 7 - 4 - 1 LTE: $1,026,229 www.pedigreequery.com/more+than+ready

44 Fusaichi Pegasus ( 1997 ) Brown Stallion Mr Prospector x Angel Fever ( Danzig ) Stud Fee: $125,000 ( 9 ) 6 - 2 - LTE: $1,994,400 www.pedigreequery.com/fusaichi+pegasus

45 Mark of Esteem(IRE) ( 1993 ) Bay Stallion Darshaan(GB) x Homage(GB) ( Ajdal ) Stud Fee: $12,462 ( 7 ) 4 - 1 - LTE: $564,007 www.pedigreequery.com/mark+of+esteem

46 Exchange Rate ( 1997 ) Grey Stallion Danzig x Sterling Pound ( Seeking the Gold ) Stud Fee: $10,000 ( 15 ) 6 - 6 - 2 LTE: 479,803 www.pedigreequery.com/exchange+rate

47 Songandaprayer ( 1998 ) Bay Stallion Unbridled's Song x Alizea ( Premiership ) Stud Fee: $35,000 ( 8 ) 3 - 1 - 1 LTE: 380,480 www.pedigreequery.com/songandaprayer

48 City Zip ( 1998 ) Chestnut Stallion Carson City x Baby Zip ( Relaunch ) Stud Fee: $15,000 ( 23 ) 9 - 5 - 4 LTE: 818,225 www.pedigreequery.com/city+zip

49 Saint Liam ( 2000 ) Bay Stallion Saint Ballado x Quiet Dance ( Quiet American ) Stud Fee: $50,000 ( 20 ) 9 - 6 - 1 LTE: 4,456,995 www.pedigreequery.com/saint+liam

50 Afleet Alex ( 2002 ) Chestnut Stallion Northern Afleet x Maggy Hawk ( Hawkster ) Stud Fee: $40,000 ( 12 ) 8 - 2 - 1 LTE: $2,765,800 www.pedigreequery.com/afleet+alex

51 Fantastic Light ( 1996 ) Bay Stallion Rahy x Jood ( Nijinsky (Can) ) Stud Fee: $38,500 ( 25 ) 12 - 5 - 3 LTE: $7,743,321 www.pedigreequery.com/fantastic+light2


52 Dubawi (IRE) ( 2002 ) Bay Stallion Dubai Millennium (GB) x Zomaradah(GB) ( Deploy (GB) ) Stud Fee: $44,597 ( 8 ) 5 - 1 - 1 LTE: $1,256,932 www.pedigreequery.com/dubawi

[Carole]

any other suggestion please post them , thanks

[rhianonmsf]

Here is the boy you said you liked Carole.


20 www.pedigreequery.com/fantastic+light2
Fantastic Light 1996 Bay Stallion Rahy Jood Nijinsky (Can) $38,500 25 12 5 3 $7,743,321

[rhianonmsf]

For myself, I think the following 15 are the best replacements

The ones with Bold are the ones I think are Must haves

Lonho(AUS) (first year 2007)
Redoute's Choice (AUS)
Rock of Gibralter (IRE)
Tisnow
Giant's Causeway
Fusaichi Pegasus
Exchange Rate
Afleet Alex (first year 2007)
Dixie Union

Saint Liam (first year 2007)
City Zip
Fantastic Light
More than Ready
Archers Bay (CAN)


Anyone else have thoughts. Of couse we won't be able to make the exact horse, but once the 15 replacements are picked, we'll research each horse and compare to what we already have, and do the best we can to replicate the Stud in the game.

[Carole]

looks good to me so far, i also like Octagonal which is Lonhros sire . and i dont know why but fantastic light just strikes me as a nice horse. just something about him..

[rhianonmsf]

I didn't pick Octagonal because he was born in 1992 which means that next year would be his only breeding season.

[silverlakesfarm]

i would like dubawi or shamardal (preferably dubawi)
also what about

kingmambo
cape cross
choisir
montjeu
oasis dream
elusive quality (may be too old)

[rhianonmsf]

Monjeu is on the list so he's a possability Kingmambo is a nice stud, but when I picked that list I picked those that were on or near the top of this years stud list.

I'll do some research on Dubawi, he's by Dubai Millenium, so that would be kind of cool

Here is his info

52 Dubawi (IRE) ( 2002 ) Bay Stallion Dubai Millennium (GB) x Zomaradah(GB) ( Deploy (GB) ) Stud Fee: $44,597 ( 8 ) 5 - 1 - 1 LTE: $1,256,932 www.pedigreequery.com/dubawi

[rhianonmsf]

Okay... After Researching Dubawi, i think he's a good addition!

SO I'm modifying my list to reflect comments made so far

Bold Horses are the solid list, There are 12 of them. Those in Italics are the ones suggested by Mane'ly and Silverlakes.

Lonho(AUS) (first year 2007)
Redoute's Choice (AUS)
Montjeu(IRE)
Dabawi (IRE) (First year 2006)
Rock of Gibralter (IRE)
Tisnow
Giant's Causeway
Fusaichi Pegasus
Exchange Rate
Afleet Alex (first year 2007)
Dixie Union
Fantastic Light



Saint Liam (first year 2007)
City Zip
Archers Bay (CAN)

[cheq]

I have no problem with any of the suggestions, but I have one that's interesting(at least to me )

www.allbreedpedigree.com/vindication4

www.thoroughbredtimes.com/isd/stallion.aspx?stallion_no=5203627

His dam is by Strawberry Road(AUS), his sire is "Slew", recreating him might be a nightmare Just a thought.

[rhianonmsf]

He's nice, but you're right with only 4 races to judge by, he would be a nightmare to recreate. Still, it looks like he ran as good as he looks. Sad he didn't run at 3.

I'll keep looking at him, and see if i can get some idea of how he ran.

RHi

[cheq]

he suffered an injury to his left front suspensory ligament about 5 weeks after winning the Breeders Cup Juv by 2 3/4 lenghts in 2002. What a shame

[ashlee]

you probably already have your list but another horse is Show a heart www.stallions.com.au/list/show_a_heart.asp

[cheq]

Your list is probably finished but I thought I'd throw in this one for the Aussie's Danehill

www.allbreedpedigree.com/danehill

[rhianonmsf]

List isnt' finished. These studs won't stand till next year so I'm in no hurry. You guys can keep throwing up suggestions!

[rhianonmsf]

I found a Brazilian Stud. I've been looking for two.

www.thoroughbredtimes.com/isd/stallion.aspx?stallion=leroidesanimauxbrz

www.thoroughbredtimes.com/isd/stallion.aspx?stallion=redattorebrz

[silverlakesfarm]

Leroidesanimaux is a good choice

[shannon]

Hey.. I thought I'd drop some names on the list.. I went through the Bloodhorse 2005 stallion roster (that thing is HEAVY) and tried to find boys that will incorporate the bloodlines we're loosing. Many of these are cheaper too, more economical for our newer players (like me)

Alawad (2000) stands for 3,500 full brother to dam of Sky Mesa, very influential female family.

Albert The Great (1997) stands for 10,000 won the Suburban, Travers, ran same year as Fusaichi Pegasus

Aldeberan (1998) stands for 40,000, champion sprinter

Arch (1995) stands for 10,000, sire of Prince Arch (2YO winner) Son of Kris S. by a Danzig mare.. Kris S. is becoming of Sire of Sires, and Danzig is Danzig

Awesome Again (1994) stands for 125,000 Do we really need an explanation?

Chapel Royal (2001) stands for 10,000 I love this guy, and he's completely free of Northern Dancer, Mr. Prospector and Seattle Slew (he's a genetic phenomenon)

Doneraile Court (1996) stands for 15,000, is by Slew and out of the great mare Sophisticated Girl. His sibling Dancing Tribute (Nureyev) is the dam of Souvenir Copy.

Eavesdropper (2000) stands for 7,500 was a decent runner, 1/2 brother to A.P. Indy by Kingmambo who also stands for 300,000

Flatter (1999) stands for 5,000. Son of A.P. Indy, from the immediate female family of Wild Applause and Glowing Tribute

Indian Charlie (1995) stands for 15,000. Real Quiet's stablemate, has no imbreeding in his first 4 generations, top freshman sire.

Johar (1999) stands for 20,000, won the Breeders Cup Turf, by Gone West

Lemon Drop Kid (1996) stands for 50,000, beat out Charismatic in the Belmont, son of Kingmambo by the mare Charming Lassie, who is a half sis to Weekend Surprise (dam of A.P. Indy)

Mingun (2000) stands for 7,500. A.P. Indy-Miesque.. is a 1/2 bro to Kingmambo

Perfect Soul (1998) stands for 15,000 canadian champion by Sadler's Wells and grandson of Canadian champion mare Queen Louie.. winner of Shadwell Turf Mile and over 1 million in earnings

Pleasantly Perfect (1998) stands for 40,000, winner of the BC Classic and Dubai World Cup, earnings of over 7mil

Sligo Bay (1998) stands for 10,000. Son of Sadler's Wells by a full sister to Saint Ballado. Female family includes dam of Rahy.

Spanish Steps (2001) stands for 5,000 UNRACED full brother to Unbridled's Song.. who will eventually be too old for ML

Tale of the Cat (1994) stands for 60,000 very popular son of Storm Cat

And I gave up after T.. so I guess chew on those.. maybe you'll like them, mayeb you won't.. I'm still learning how SD works

Shannon

[cheq]

All interesting, but I'm suprised yu don't have Forestry on the list if you have Tale of the Cat there.

[rhianonmsf]

I"m a fan of Lemon Drop Kid.............. so how about we amend the list too...


Lonho(AUS) (first year 2007)
Redoute's Choice (AUS)
Montjeu(IRE)
Dabawi (IRE) (First year 2006)
Rock of Gibralter (IRE)
Tiznow
Giant's Causeway
Fusaichi Pegasus
Exchange Rate
Afleet Alex (first year 2007)
Dixie Union
Fantastic Light
Lemon Drop Kid
Leroidesanimaux(BRZ)
Redattore(BRZ)


This is the Finished List I believe. What do you all think?

[shannon]

I love the list.. I thought I put Forestry on there.. but oh well, it was late... if you need any info on Redatorre.. lemme know.. I have some dvds and paperwork on him, somewhere. Oh.. Tisnow is really Tiznow with a Z... (sorry, it was bugging me)

[ashlee]

yeah they all sound good

[cheq]

They look fine

[silverlakesfarm]

looks good to me

[Carole]

PERFECT I KNEW I PUT IT IN GOOD HANDS!!! ;D